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according to what is institutionally appropriate. the u.s., there will be a friend of syrian meeting. reports are is that the u.s. is preparing to recognize transitional governments if one were out of this new revolutionary coalition. if there is a transitional government that is recognized, what will the relationship be to these councils that are more ad hoc? are these local? council local do they have to be -- are these local council sustainable? do they have to be accountable for the structures that may emerge? what is the sustainability in the future of these councils? >> they can build their relations. people have to survive. during my stay both in aleppo and italy you see every day, especially if you could to center aleppo, it is bombing. it is a warm toward situation -- war torn situation. different italians were able to unite. one of the first issues was to get them out of the city. it is much more likely that you get bombed. based on they got bombed. -- later on they got bombs. the first challenge is that the city has to be able to defend themselves. how are they going to be
're talking in a room the u.s. but a lot of time in. you came to the senate -- that uyoyou have spent a lot of time in. you can to the senate. what do you see as the legacy of time did you spend in this room? >> back in the clinton years, we were able to actually balance the budget, we treated the longest period of uninterrupted growth. -- created the longest period of uninterrupted growth. and we were paying down the debt. in recent times, i've been part of a nonpartisan commission to resolve these debt issues. there we had 11 of the 18 members agree on a plan to the country back on track. i still believe that is probably the best blueprint for going forward. i was also part of the group of six that became the group of eight, evenly divided the dream republicans and democrats. -- that between republicans and democrats. >> lots to go back with. let me start with the 1990's. how much of that success was the bursting economy with the tech bubble that was happening that brought more money into the coffers? >> all of these things are connected. that is my belief. governmental policy, what happe
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